Thursday, June 16, 2011
Dead Beat Dads: Department of Revenue - Florida
Dead Beat Dads: Department of Revenue - Florida: "I started this blog today because I am at the top of my stress level when dealing with the department of Rev. Child support enforcement depa..."
Dead Beat Dads: First visit to the Dept of Children and Families-C...
Dead Beat Dads: First visit to the Dept of Children and Families-C...: " In 2008, on my lunch hour after being told by DOR to go to the local Child support office to speak with them concerning my case I deci..."
First visit to the Dept of Children and Families-Child support office
In 2008, on my lunch hour after being told by DOR to go to the local Child support office to speak with them concerning my case I decided to do just that. The office here is located on MLK Blvd right under I-4 to the right heading west towards Tampa on MLK. I walked in to find anywhere between 80-100 people all races, ages and creed alike. As soon as you walk in they have security there asking you to fill out this yellow-orange paper. This paper requests information about you and the non custodial parent. SSN, DOB, Address, Previous/Current employment ect... After 20 minutes filling out this paper of all the information that Child support should have if they were doing there job properly. I put back the tiny pencil just small enough for a small child to fit in there little hands, of course this little itty bitty pencil was minus an eraser to correct any mistakes. I stood in the long line waiting to speak with the woman in the window. She took a short minute with each and every one of the people in line including myself trying to figure out who is best to review the case as she put each of us on a waiting list. She then requested us all to have a seat one by one.
While sitting like sardines in a tight can and observing the people of differences around me I noticed several school aged children "Not in school on a week day" running around like they have never been corrected or taught to sit patiently in an office environment. Those same children have ripped, stained clothes on and dirty as if they had not seen water since there summer vacation pool visit. To my amusement those very same children were running up calling woman mom that had there nails done, hair done up, toes done, designer clothes on and gold jewelry on as if they only cared about there self's. It was very shocking to me that if they have there children, I was pretty sure they were in that office for the very same reason I was but yet they look like they do fine for themselves. Not trying to pass judgment but I felt very out of place and uneasy with the situation I seen in that office. After waiting 40 minutes I starting biting at the bit in hopes that they would be able to see me so I could get back to work at my allotted time, not trying to be late to the sole income of feeding and clothing my children.
I had approximately 10 minutes to get back to work ready to give up and leave I heard my name called. Once back in the little office with what looked like bullet proof glass that stretched from the top of the desk all the way to the ceiling. A little cut out in front like a bank teller was present for you to slide any paperwork pertaining to your case through as well as a way for the office personnel to here your speech. I explained that I was hurting and that I needed them to do more for my case. I explained that I didn't feel as if they were working towards holding my ex to his responsibility. The guy that I spoke with had dusty black/grey hair as if he had some wisdom to him but yet he right away pulled an application for food stamps and government assistance out from behind his desk and slid it through the window. Explaining to me that if I was having such a hard time financially that I needed to file for welfare pushing the paper that explained how to do so. I am not an emotional person to say the least but that was a pain in my heart and mind that was too hard for me to hold in the emotions. I started to cry, I think more pissed then hurt. I have been working two jobs for the past several years and raising my children in a middle class life while struggling to stay OFF of welfare. A proud life that I can do so and remain just above water so that my tax dollars can go to people that are truly hungry and hurting. Now I know the system has several users that should not be on it, they should be up working two jobs too to stay off of it. If I can do it most of them can too. Again not my position to judge. There are many people out there that need help from our government and THAT is who it is for, For the people that need it for a short time and never abuse what is being handed to them "My Tax Dollars". Those people who do the right thing and take help when they need it and only when they need it is the ones that I don't mind helping. The situation at hand here and what my mind was trying to wrap around was simply this. Child support is asking me to file for State assistance instead of them doing there job and getting me what is allotted BY COURT to help me raise my children. REALLY! It doesn't matter how hard I work the Child support enforcement is not working as hard. Before I left I slid the paper back through the little window and looked the guy in the eye and said " I didn't come here for state assistance I came here today begging for your help in forcing my ex to own his responsibility IE: Child support enforcement" "Apparently I came to state assistance office".
I left that office that day distraught and confused about the whole situation. It dawned on me, that is the very reason why I am sure half of the people that I laid eyes on in the office were there. Easy quick way for state assistance to prevail. Not this chic... I will go to the next step and I will take on another side job to fulfill my ex's responsibility.
Next blog will be about taking matters into my own hands and how DOR treated me about doing so.
Thanks for reading more to come.
Tiffiny
While sitting like sardines in a tight can and observing the people of differences around me I noticed several school aged children "Not in school on a week day" running around like they have never been corrected or taught to sit patiently in an office environment. Those same children have ripped, stained clothes on and dirty as if they had not seen water since there summer vacation pool visit. To my amusement those very same children were running up calling woman mom that had there nails done, hair done up, toes done, designer clothes on and gold jewelry on as if they only cared about there self's. It was very shocking to me that if they have there children, I was pretty sure they were in that office for the very same reason I was but yet they look like they do fine for themselves. Not trying to pass judgment but I felt very out of place and uneasy with the situation I seen in that office. After waiting 40 minutes I starting biting at the bit in hopes that they would be able to see me so I could get back to work at my allotted time, not trying to be late to the sole income of feeding and clothing my children.
I had approximately 10 minutes to get back to work ready to give up and leave I heard my name called. Once back in the little office with what looked like bullet proof glass that stretched from the top of the desk all the way to the ceiling. A little cut out in front like a bank teller was present for you to slide any paperwork pertaining to your case through as well as a way for the office personnel to here your speech. I explained that I was hurting and that I needed them to do more for my case. I explained that I didn't feel as if they were working towards holding my ex to his responsibility. The guy that I spoke with had dusty black/grey hair as if he had some wisdom to him but yet he right away pulled an application for food stamps and government assistance out from behind his desk and slid it through the window. Explaining to me that if I was having such a hard time financially that I needed to file for welfare pushing the paper that explained how to do so. I am not an emotional person to say the least but that was a pain in my heart and mind that was too hard for me to hold in the emotions. I started to cry, I think more pissed then hurt. I have been working two jobs for the past several years and raising my children in a middle class life while struggling to stay OFF of welfare. A proud life that I can do so and remain just above water so that my tax dollars can go to people that are truly hungry and hurting. Now I know the system has several users that should not be on it, they should be up working two jobs too to stay off of it. If I can do it most of them can too. Again not my position to judge. There are many people out there that need help from our government and THAT is who it is for, For the people that need it for a short time and never abuse what is being handed to them "My Tax Dollars". Those people who do the right thing and take help when they need it and only when they need it is the ones that I don't mind helping. The situation at hand here and what my mind was trying to wrap around was simply this. Child support is asking me to file for State assistance instead of them doing there job and getting me what is allotted BY COURT to help me raise my children. REALLY! It doesn't matter how hard I work the Child support enforcement is not working as hard. Before I left I slid the paper back through the little window and looked the guy in the eye and said " I didn't come here for state assistance I came here today begging for your help in forcing my ex to own his responsibility IE: Child support enforcement" "Apparently I came to state assistance office".
I left that office that day distraught and confused about the whole situation. It dawned on me, that is the very reason why I am sure half of the people that I laid eyes on in the office were there. Easy quick way for state assistance to prevail. Not this chic... I will go to the next step and I will take on another side job to fulfill my ex's responsibility.
Next blog will be about taking matters into my own hands and how DOR treated me about doing so.
Thanks for reading more to come.
Tiffiny
Wednesday, June 15, 2011
Department of Revenue - Florida
I started this blog today because I am at the top of my stress level when dealing with the department of Rev. Child support enforcement department. It never fails when you call to find out information IF ANY on what actions they are taking to enforce my ex husband to abide by his court order, only to be hung up on, treated like a piece of dirt or simply told nothing is being done cause he is trying. Example of Trying 37$ in two months for two young children. My questions are never answered in turn I am so miss informed as to what the actual guidelines are to there enforcement. I am told time and time again to collect state assistance in order to fulfill my ex husband's lack of responsibilities. I am tired of it.
A little about my situation... I have two young children 8 and 11, There father and I went through a nasty 4 year divorce cause either he couldn't be served cause he was at war or just living on base, or he was dodging and running from what he knew was his responsibility. Our divorce was not up for debate and neither of us were trying to make things work any longer so the reasons I list are the reasons I believe to be truth.
Nov 2006 - He agreed to sign the divorce papers only if he got the nicer car and I only made him pay 350.00 a month for BOTH of the children a month. He claimed at the time that he would pay an extra 100.00 a month if I only put the 350 through the courts. I knew it was a lie never did I see another 100.00 extra dollars a month. I agreed to that amount solely because at the time there daycare was 700.00 a month and that would at least cover half.
Jan 2007 - It was time to finalize the divorce papers and the judge told my ex his first payment was due before the end of the month. I did not receive a dime till April of 2007.
Here is the breakdown of the magnificent payment history to say the least.
2007 He paid 8% of his allotted child support. That is a total of 14$ a month for each of my children.
****He had a wonderful wedding this year to his new wife just a few months after the divorce*****
2008 He paid 11% if his allotted child support. 19.25 a month each child.
****But yet he moves into a beautiful home with his new step daughter and wife *****
2009 He paid 28% of his allotted child support. 49$ a month per child.
It's getting better...
The whole time this man is in the Army... Can you believe that no matter how many calls they get they protect there soldiers and wash away the responsibility our soldiers have to the families they help make. SAD
2009 I decided after many many calls to DOR and no help with anything to take the matter in my own hands. Scrimping and saving 800$ to hire a Paralegal to fill in and file all of the proper paper work for me to take him back to court. To change the fact that the courts allows Him to claim one child each year on Taxes as well as the back child support now to the sum of $10,626. Once he was served with paper work in Sept 2009, You better believe he was paying his child support on time like clock work until we went before a judge. "Had to make his self look good" So needless to say from Sept 2009 to May 2010 I received every payment on time no issues what so ever.
March 2010- I had to shell out another 120.00 for a mediation service that I knew would not help us
May 2010 - Court date. We go in the judge asked why we were there and I explained to him on how much he was behind and that I needed to claim both of my children on my income taxes. The judge granted that with ease, Then the judge at the 13th judicial courts Tampa Florida asked me if I wanted to re adjust child support. I said your honor I would like for him to continue to pay his allotted payments as he has done so since he was served in Sept. If he can do so I do not wish to take anymore from him. I can support our children on the income that I provide with his allotted payments. He looked at my ex and said YOU WILL CONTINUE TO PAY EACH AND EVER MONTH. After my ex really embarrassed his self by asking for the judge to lower his payments from 175.00 a month to a lesser amount per child. The judge looked over the paper work and said " Sir you would make a HUGE mistake if you asked me to do that and If I were you I would rethink your decision" My ex then retracted his statement.
June 2010 - He paid 0 dollars... Back to the old bad habits
My question is how does that judge expect me to get help now? I do not have another 800.00 to file and that judge will not see me again until I do. RIDICULOUS right.
Well that is the basics of where I am with this situation with my ex and his vow to dodge the financial responsibilities of raising two great children.
Thanks for reading More posts coming soon
Tboren
A little about my situation... I have two young children 8 and 11, There father and I went through a nasty 4 year divorce cause either he couldn't be served cause he was at war or just living on base, or he was dodging and running from what he knew was his responsibility. Our divorce was not up for debate and neither of us were trying to make things work any longer so the reasons I list are the reasons I believe to be truth.
Nov 2006 - He agreed to sign the divorce papers only if he got the nicer car and I only made him pay 350.00 a month for BOTH of the children a month. He claimed at the time that he would pay an extra 100.00 a month if I only put the 350 through the courts. I knew it was a lie never did I see another 100.00 extra dollars a month. I agreed to that amount solely because at the time there daycare was 700.00 a month and that would at least cover half.
Jan 2007 - It was time to finalize the divorce papers and the judge told my ex his first payment was due before the end of the month. I did not receive a dime till April of 2007.
Here is the breakdown of the magnificent payment history to say the least.
2007 He paid 8% of his allotted child support. That is a total of 14$ a month for each of my children.
****He had a wonderful wedding this year to his new wife just a few months after the divorce*****
2008 He paid 11% if his allotted child support. 19.25 a month each child.
****But yet he moves into a beautiful home with his new step daughter and wife *****
2009 He paid 28% of his allotted child support. 49$ a month per child.
It's getting better...
The whole time this man is in the Army... Can you believe that no matter how many calls they get they protect there soldiers and wash away the responsibility our soldiers have to the families they help make. SAD
2009 I decided after many many calls to DOR and no help with anything to take the matter in my own hands. Scrimping and saving 800$ to hire a Paralegal to fill in and file all of the proper paper work for me to take him back to court. To change the fact that the courts allows Him to claim one child each year on Taxes as well as the back child support now to the sum of $10,626. Once he was served with paper work in Sept 2009, You better believe he was paying his child support on time like clock work until we went before a judge. "Had to make his self look good" So needless to say from Sept 2009 to May 2010 I received every payment on time no issues what so ever.
March 2010- I had to shell out another 120.00 for a mediation service that I knew would not help us
May 2010 - Court date. We go in the judge asked why we were there and I explained to him on how much he was behind and that I needed to claim both of my children on my income taxes. The judge granted that with ease, Then the judge at the 13th judicial courts Tampa Florida asked me if I wanted to re adjust child support. I said your honor I would like for him to continue to pay his allotted payments as he has done so since he was served in Sept. If he can do so I do not wish to take anymore from him. I can support our children on the income that I provide with his allotted payments. He looked at my ex and said YOU WILL CONTINUE TO PAY EACH AND EVER MONTH. After my ex really embarrassed his self by asking for the judge to lower his payments from 175.00 a month to a lesser amount per child. The judge looked over the paper work and said " Sir you would make a HUGE mistake if you asked me to do that and If I were you I would rethink your decision" My ex then retracted his statement.
June 2010 - He paid 0 dollars... Back to the old bad habits
My question is how does that judge expect me to get help now? I do not have another 800.00 to file and that judge will not see me again until I do. RIDICULOUS right.
Well that is the basics of where I am with this situation with my ex and his vow to dodge the financial responsibilities of raising two great children.
Thanks for reading More posts coming soon
Tboren
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